*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (5:55 PM):

BOO!

Krista says (5:55 PM):

rawr!

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (5:55 PM):

brb  

Krista says (5:55 PM):

mmk

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:00 PM):

so you wanna do some leveling?

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:01 PM):

=3

Krista says (6:02 PM):

i'z gunna go get my drawing pictures donnnne!

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:03 PM):

  I told you -not- to waste all your playing time!  

Krista says (6:03 PM):

hahahaha i didn't waste all my time!

Krista says (6:03 PM):

i did some homework

Krista says (6:03 PM):

i had to figure out my camera before deciding to go

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:03 PM):

  lol how long does ur pic take?

Krista says (6:04 PM):

umm... however long going to the place, getting a piercing(very slowly... eek!) and getting back takes

Krista says (6:04 PM):

 

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:04 PM):

 

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:05 PM):

and how long is tha?

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:05 PM):

wait, piercing?

Krista says (6:06 PM):

haha yeah

Krista says (6:06 PM):

remember the piercing i was telling you bout?

Krista says (6:06 PM):

it's for a drawing project

Krista says (6:06 PM):

conceptual drawing

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:07 PM):

O.o

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:07 PM):

wait what?

Krista says (6:08 PM):

hahaha

Krista says (6:08 PM):

i told you bout the piercing right?

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:09 PM):

yeah

Krista says (6:09 PM):

it's for art

Krista says (6:09 PM):

for a piece i'm doing

Krista says (6:10 PM):

ignore the fact that it's for a drawing class

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:10 PM):

O.o a piercing for art?

Krista says (6:10 PM):

yeah

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:10 PM):

piercing AS art maybe

Krista says (6:10 PM):

i'm taking pictures

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:10 PM):

but FOR?  

Krista says (6:10 PM):

photography???  

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:11 PM):

neat... i thought u said drawing

Krista says (6:12 PM):

it is for a drawing class

Krista says (6:12 PM):

but it's a concept piece

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:12 PM):

o.o

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:12 PM):

ooooh

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:13 PM):

so you like... take the picture, and be like "I would draw this"?

Krista says (6:13 PM):

no, it is your drawing

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:13 PM):

O.o "i will draw this'?

Krista says (6:13 PM):

because you created it, you made it

Krista says (6:13 PM):

it IS the drawing

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:13 PM):

O.O you didnt draw it

Krista says (6:14 PM):

haha, well, with a digital camera, i created the marks and the shading, i framed it the way i wanted it or set it up the way i wanted it

Krista says (6:14 PM):

and if i were exposing it etc or whatevs, i'd be drawing with light

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:14 PM):

but you didnt -draw- it O.O

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:14 PM):

it's a photograph

Krista says (6:14 PM):

ahhaha

Krista says (6:14 PM):

ask the proff to explain it

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:15 PM):

 

Krista says (6:15 PM):

he's been opening our minds to different things that can be considerred drawing to the point that now, it's a lot easier to accept a photograph as being, conceptually, a photograph

Krista says (6:16 PM):

anything you want to do, you can do in art. it's a really abstract way of thinking

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:16 PM):

like, I kinda see where you're going with it

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:16 PM):

but IMO it's silly

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:16 PM):

it's like saying "well, they talk some in that song, so it's rap" when it's really classical

Krista says (6:17 PM):

pshh

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:17 PM):

yes, you're blurring the lines... but are you doing so in a useful way? classifying things is useful for a reason

Krista says (6:18 PM):

that's totally differnt, music is a very fixed concept of what is what, tho some people thing the lines between types is more blurred than others, he's teaching us to think outside the box and realize that classification isn't the most important part of art. the art is most important

Krista says (6:18 PM):

art is about pushing those boundaries

Krista says (6:19 PM):

and for some things, tearing the boundaries down entirely like marcel duchamp did with what sculpture was

Krista says (6:19 PM):

now, it can be nearly anything

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:19 PM):

I agree that classification isn't the most important part, but it's useful

Krista says (6:19 PM):

but it's still art

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:19 PM):

and the confusion here is a perfect example

Krista says (6:19 PM):

haha

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:19 PM):

it's still art

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:19 PM):

but a drawing is a drawing, a photograph is a photograph

Krista says (6:19 PM):

confusion for those not educated to think this way... i'm learning

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:19 PM):

saying "well technically I 'drew' it with light" doesn't help anyone

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:19 PM):

stretching those boundaries isn't particularly helpful

Krista says (6:20 PM):

i'm learning to speak and justify things that others don't understand. this one might be pushing it a bit far, but it helps me to explain other, less categorically off things

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:20 PM):

it's art... but it's a photograph, the classification has a purpose and stretchign it distorts that purpose without providing any other purpose

Krista says (6:20 PM):

buuuut, read what i just wrote

Krista says (6:20 PM):

it's teaching me something else entirely

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:20 PM):

*shrugs* sounds to me more like a lesson in people manipulation than a lesson in art

Krista says (6:21 PM):

haha naw. what do you think of photo transfers as a drawing medium then?

Krista says (6:21 PM):

 

Krista says (6:21 PM):

continue discussion after i get back?

*Travis* || ~(Nescit cedere)~ says (6:21 PM):

if you want

Krista says (6:21 PM):

*shrug* sure

Krista says (6:21 PM):

see you then!

Krista says (6:21 PM):

oh, last chance at input: what piercing??

Krista says (6:21 PM):